![]() ![]() And so ever since then, it’s just been sort of a name. But that kind of broke down in the late ‘90s or so. Basically, the distance between two wires used to actually be what they named things after, excuse me. That measurement, it’s called the metal pitch. There was a time when they actually meant something. ![]() But they are going to continue to name new things and make new processes and make things even smaller.Ĭass: So what do these names relate to at all then? The five-nanometer node- sorry, the five-nanometer node chips generally have sort of their smallest distance between the wires is 20 to 25 nanometers. You want to keep in mind that these names actually have nothing to do with the size of stuff on things. You hear a lot about sort of five-nanometer node, three-nanometer node, and stuff like that. Right now, we’re sort of around the 200 million transistors per square millimeter range, and going to continue to keep trying to make that smaller. But it is continuing, and there’s a lot of effort to make that happen. ![]() It is getting harder and more expensive to make more transistors on a given area of silicon. So can you talk a little about what the current state is and these new ideas for pushing that boat further down the stream? Great to be here.Ĭass: So we’d often talk about Moore’s law, no relation, on this show, and the current state of it and how we always seem to be talking about it’s the end of Moore’s law. And to do that, I’m talking with another Spectrumite, senior editor, Sam Moore, who covers a semiconductor beat for us like a field effect transistor covering a depletion layer. Today, we’re going to be talking about making tiny things even tinier so that we can cram ever more computing power onto silicon chips. And before we start, I just want to tell you that you can get the latest coverage from some of Spectrum‘s most important beats, including AI, climate change, aynd robotics by signing up for one of our free newsletters. ![]() I’m your host, Stephen Cass, a senior editor at IEEE Spectrum. Stephen Cass: Hello and welcome to Fixing the Future, an IEEE Spectrum podcast, where we look at concrete solutions to some big problems. ![]()
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